Mr. Brooks.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it then that the Texas Employment Commission--let's use a hypothetical now at the moment: Assume there has been an applicant for employment. There appear to be positions open in the industrial field. The applicant indicates some reluctance to accept, to seek, at least, employment in the industrial field, but mentions preference for some other field. The fact that there is a reference to you does not necessarily mean, does it, that the applicant is one who is inclined to "gold brick" and is not really looking for a job?

Mr. Brooks.

Nothing in conference like that.

Mr. Jenner.

Tell us what the industrial field is?

Mr. Brooks.

The industrial field, of course, is primarily jobs with factories, actually. That includes skilled and semiskilled jobs, and also in our industrial office, truck driving and service station work is also included in this field. But primarily it is an office where the factory employer calls in for factory laborers, whether they be skilled or unskilled..

Mr. Jenner.

All right, now, yesterday Mr. Adams, Mr. Statman, and Mrs. Cunningham provided some records from the Texas Employment Commission, and I notice that on one of them appears your name, Don Brooks, and that is what is referred to generally as an applicant card.

Mr. Brooks.

E-13.

Mr. Jenner.

E-13 (Cunningham Exhibit. No. 1 ), and that the other witnesses generally refer to that as an E-13 card?

Mr. Brooks.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Now would you please examine that E-13 card, particularly the inside face which bears your signature. By the way, does that bear your signature?

Mr. Brooks.

Yes, sir; that is my signature.

Mr. Jenner.

It says interviewer. Where it says interviewer, there is a signature on the card opposite the word interviewer, and that signature in longhand is Don Brooks, and that is the witness' signature. There appears below that signature, the word "Cunningham." She was in yesterday. That is a fellow counselor, also?

Mr. Brooks.

Yes, sir; in the clerical and professional office.

Mr. Jenner.

Professional and clerical?

Mr. Brooks.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Can you explain to us the coincidence of each of you having signed that form?

Mr. Brooks.

Probably because this card was transferred over to the other office, actually.

Mr. Jenner.

From your office back over to Mrs. Cunningham?

Mr. Brooks.

And she signed below because--I wouldn't swear to this but evidently she made some more comments in here.

Mr. Jenner.

When an interview is held, do you interviewers make notations on this card?

Mr. Brooks.

What sort of notations

Mr. Jenner.

The sort of notations that appear on the card now?

Mr. Brooks.

Sure. We give applicant's characteristics usually, and then if there is any special information, we put it in on condition that it might affect employment.

Mr. Jenner.

Is any of that writing that appears above your signature yours?

Mr. Brooks.

No, sir; I can't see any of my writing.

Mr. Jenner.

Now examine examining the bottom half of that application (Cunningham Exhibit No. 1).

Mr. Brooks.

No, sir; I don't recognize any of my writing on this at all in this section, where we send them out on the job. This is where usually the placement interviewer sends them on.

Mr. Jenner.

You are not a placement interviewer?

Mr. Brooks.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

You are a counselor. So that on the inside of the card when folded, there is nothing in your handwriting on that card other than your signature, is that correct?