Mr. Jenner.

I take it, and am I correct, that he was not employed or hired by the Solid State Electronics Co. of Texas on your reference?

Mr. Adams.

To the best of my knowledge he was not hired on any of the jobs to which I referred him.

Mr. Jenner.

And does the name Trans-Texas stimulate your recollection as to any possible reference?

Mr. Adams.

Yes, sir; about--in late October or early November, Trans-Texas Airways called Mr. Roy----

Mr. Jenner.

Who is Mr. Roy?

Mr. Adams.

He is not the station manager, he is the. I really don't know what his title is, but anyway, he deals with the people who are more concerned with servicing the aircraft than with passengers. Anyway, he advised me that the company was contemplating expansion and he would need possibly as many as 12 or 14 ramp agents and--as they are called by the airline industry- -we call them baggage, cargo handlers, and he gave me qualifications, minimum qualifications, to send out those who met the qualifications.

Mr. Jenner.

Was Lee Harvey Oswald one of those you sent out?

Mr. Adams.

If the record indicates, he was.

Mr. Jenner.

But here again you have no recollection beyond what' the record shows?

Mr. Adams.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have any recollection as to salary, for example, as compared with that that you mentioned--you mentioned some kind of a figure, with respect to Solid State Electronics Co?

Mr. Adams.

I think that the going rate of Trans-Texas then was $210 a month plus overtime.

Mr. Jenner.

Did Oswald report on that reference?

Mr. Adams.

I don't know, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Would it refresh your recollection if I told you that he did not, and that he became employed by the Texas State Book Depository on the 16th of October 1963?

Mr. Adams.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

The incident to which you refer occurred the latter part of October or the first part of November, that is with Trans-Texas?

Mr. Adams.

As best I recall it; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I would like to talk to Mr. Sayre what is the telephone number over there?

Mr. Adams.

It is Riverside 7-2071.
The unfortunate thing about it, as I said, about being a placement interviewer is that unless there is something outstanding about the individual or something appears in the record it is just another applicant.

Mr. Jenner.

You interview a good many people every day, day after day, and unless something strikes you out of the ordinary with respect to a particular job applicant or unemployed person, that makes it stand out in your mind, you are unable to sort out or recall specifically?

Mr. Adams.

Right. I could rattle off the names of half a dozen applicants who are ex-convicts, alcoholics, or either recovered from psychiatric treatment or who are presently undergoing psychiatric treatment, or when I look at their record I see, consistent "No hire" or "Failed to accept employment," but these people will stick with me, but if I recall, Mr. Oswald had not been registered too long or, beginning with my contact--my contact with him renewed his relationship with our placement office. In other words, as I try to visualize his card, I don't see a whole card full of entries--just a few up at the top.

Mr. Jenner.

There is one card for each job applicant?

Mr. Adams.

Yes, sir; at least.

Mr. Jenner.

And if he has been back and forth a couple, of times there might be more than one card?

Mr. Adams.

If he was coded. For instance,-suppose he said, "I have been a truck driver for 2 years." I will say, "Fine, you get an additional code for truck driving," which is a 7 code, and this card, we would either send with him to the industrial office for placing in their files, or we would send it--he might say, "I will accept labor work," and we would say, "Fine, we will send