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(Testimony of John J. Abt)
Mr. Rankin.
None of your clients had ever communicated to you about him prior to that time you heard about it over the radio?
Mr. Abt.
No; I had no recollection of even having heard the name, his name, before that time.
Mr. Rankin.
Thank you.
Mr. Abt.
Right.
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Mrs. Helen P. Cunningham
Testimony of Mrs. Helen P. Cunningham
The testimony of Mrs. Helen P. Cunningham was taken at 5:20 p.m., on April 1, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Albert E. Jenner, assistant counsel of the President's Commission. Robert T. Davis, assistant attorney general of Texas, was present.
Mr. Jenner.
Would you state your full name?
Mrs. Cunningham.
Helen P. Cunningham.
Mr. Jenner.
And would you rise and be sworn. Mrs. Cunningham, in your testimony that you are about to give, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
Mrs. Cunningham.
I do.
Mr. Jenner.
I am Albert E. Jenner, Jr. I am a member of the legal staff of the President's Commission. The President's Commission was created by U.S. Senate Joint Resolution 137. That Commission under that legislation is appointed to investigate the assassination of our late President, John Fitzgerald Kennedy. The President of the United States, Mr. Lyndon B. Johnson, did act pursuant to that legislation and under Executive Order 11130, he appointed the Commission and brought it into legal existence. Its duties, as I have indicated, are to investigate the assassination of the late President, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, and in the course of that work, which has now been going on for some time, we find many people, especially people here in Dallas, who had some kind of contact in the normal and usual and regular course of business, most of them, whether State agents or otherwise, with Lee Harvey Oswald and some of them with his wife, Marina. We understand from others of your fellow employees of the Commission that you had some contact with Lee Harvey Oswald and I would like to ask you some questions about that.
Am I right in my assumption that you did have some contact with him?
Mrs. Cunningham.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
And it was in your capacity, in the due course of your work with the Texas Employment Commission, that office being located here in Dallas?
Mrs. Cunningham.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Where do you reside, Mrs. Cunningham?
Mrs. Cunningham.
1046 North Winnetka.
Mr. Jenner.
In Dallas?
Mrs. Cunningham.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
Are you a native of Dallas?
Mrs. Cunningham.
What is your definition of "native"--born here, sir?
Mr. Jenner.
Well, say--born or lived most of your life in Dallas?
Mrs. Cunningham.
No, sir; my speech indicates that I was not.
Mr. Jenner.
I detected that.
Mrs. Cunningham.
I was born in St. Louis, Mo. and resided in Missouri in various portions of it.
If my voice is low, young lady, if it doesn't come to-you, well please call my attention to it.
We came to Dallas in 1951 and we have resided here since then.
Mr. Jenner.
How long have you been employed by or associated with the Texas Employment Commission?
Mrs. Cunningham.
Since August of 1957, if I remembering my dates properly.
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