Mr. Rankin.

Mr. Johnson, do you have any other papers or knowledge bearing upon the assassination of President Kennedy that you haven't related here?

Mr. Johnson.

No, I do not.

Mr. Rankin.

That is all I have, Mr. Abt. Do you have anything?

Mr. Abt.

I have nothing.

Mr. Rankin.

Mr. Abt, may we ask you to be so kind as to be sworn and act as a witness for a brief moment?

Mr. Rankin.

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Testimony of James J. Tormey

Mr. Rankin.

James J. Tormey
TESTIMONY OF JAMES J. TORMEY

Mr. Rankin.

The testimony of James J. Tormey was taken at 11:30 a.m., on April 17, 1964, at the U.S. Courthouse, Foley Square, New York, N.Y., by Messrs. J. Lee Rankin, general counsel and Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission. James J. Tormey was accompanied by his attorney, John J. Abt.

Mr. Rankin.

James J. Tormey, having been first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:

Mr. Rankin.

Give the reporter your name and your address.

Mr. Tormey.

James J. Tormey, T-o-r-m-e-y, 215 Willoughby Avenue, Brooklyn, N.Y.

Mr. Rankin.

Mr. Tormey, you received some correspondence from Lee Harvey Oswald, did you?

Mr. Tormey.

I received--a letter was referred to me from him.

Mr. Rankin.

Who referred the letter to you?

Mr. Tormey.

I don't know who it was, but apparently the letter which is addressed on the upper right-hand side to 23 West 26th Street was referred, and I don't remember who referred it.

Mr. Rankin.

Will you tell us what your position was at the time you received this referral?

Mr. Tormey.

Yes; I was the executive secretary of the Hall-Davis Defense Committee.
(Objects marked Tormey Exhibit No. 1.)

Mr. Rankin.

Mr. Tormey, will you examine Exhibit No. 1 on the deposition that you are giving today, which consists of several placard-type pieces of material, together with some plastic pieces, and tell us whether or not you have seen those before?

Mr. Tormey.

I have seen them before.

Mr. Rankin.

That Exhibit 1, I did not fully describe as I asked you to examine it. It also includes a little note purportedly from Lee Harvey Oswald, addressed to "Dear Sirs," with an address, 23 West 25th Street, apparently, New York.

Mr. Tormey.

I imagine that is 26th Street. I am not sure.

Mr. Rankin.

Twenty-six; yes. And that was a part of the Exhibit 1 that included these other materials that I have described, was it, when you received it?

Mr. Tormey.

That is right.

Mr. Rankin.

After you received Exhibit 1 with those various materials and that note on yellow paper, what did you do?

Mr. Tormey.

Well, after reading it over I answered to the person who signed the letter, stating that I would put it on file, expressing appreciation for sending them, that I would put it on file in the event that we would have any occasion to use his services.
(Document marked Tormey Exhibit No. 2.)

Mr. Rankin.

I hand you Exhibit No. 2 and ask you if that is a carbon copy of the answer that you prepared and sent.

Mr. Tormey.

Yes; it is.

Mr. Rankin.

Under our practice, the examining attorney is asked to initial the exhibit, and the witness too, so it will be established that we both----

Mr. Tormey.

Examined it?