(Testimony of James Herbert Martin)
Mr. Redlich.
Did Marina tell you all about this?
Mr. Martin.
Yes.
Mr. Redlich.
In English?
Mr. Martin.
Yes.
Mr. Redlich.
She knew English well enough to be able to relate this type of story?
Mr. Martin.
She learned very rapidly.
Mr. Redlich.
Do you recall approximately when that was?
Mr. Martin.
No. It was the same day it came out in the paper.
Representative Ford.
Did she know of her own knowledge about General Walker? Did she indicate any background information about General Walker?
Mr. Martin.
No.
Representative Ford.
She only told what Lee told her about it?
Mr. Martin.
Lee told her he was a Fascist.
Mr. Dulles.
Did she recount to you, that is, did Marina account to you, what she said to Lee Harvey after this incident, after the Walker incident, after he told her about the Walker incident?
Mr. Martin.
Yes, she said that she hid the note that he left in a cookbook and told him if he ever did anything like that again that she would turn that note over to the police and turn him over to the police also.
Mr. Redlich.
Mr. Martin, were you aware that Marina Oswald had given this information voluntarily to the Secret Service or the FBI concerning the Walker incident?
Mr. Martin.
No.
Mr. Redlich.
Did you ever ask her about it?
Mr. Martin.
Well, it was in the newspapers so I assumed they knew about it.
Mr. Redlich.
And you assumed she had volunteered this information?
Mr. Martin.
Well, of course now, I was a little concerned to begin with as to how it got out.
Mr. Redlich.
Why were you concerned?
Mr. Martin.
Well, if she had told it to the FBI and the FBI only then how did it get in the newspapers?
Mr. Redlich.
What was the you say you were concerned that certain aspects of her story were being released. What was the nature of your concern?
Mr. Martin.
Well, I was just wondering how that information got to the newspapers?
Mr. Redlich.
Did you ask her?
Mr. Martin.
No, I didn't ask her because she didn't see any newspaper reporters at all.
Mr. Redlich.
Did you ask any of the agents of the FBI or the Secret Service?
Mr. Martin.
Yes, Mr. Heitman.
Mr. Redlich.
What did Mr. Heitman tell you?
Mr. Martin.
He said it didn't come from the Dallas office. He said it must have come from Washington. The Houston Chronicle brought it out.
Mr. Redlich.
By Washington he meant the Washington office?
Mr. Martin.
Of the FBI, the Justice Department.
Mr. Redlich.
FBI. That was his opinion as to where this information could come from?
Mr. Martin.
Yes.
Mr. Redlich.
Did you ever ask Mrs. Oswald why she had not revealed this information prior to that time?
Mr. Martin.
No, I tried to stay as far away from this investigation as possible, because I didn't want to get into it at all to be real frank about it. I figured there are people better equipped than I to ferret out information and they have methods of doing it that I have no idea about.
Mr. Redlich.
At that time, however, you were acting as her business representative.
Mr. Martin.
Yes. Because I had to refute something in the paper.
Mr. Redlich.
Were you assisting her at that time in the preparation of any narratives that she was preparing in connection with her story?
Mr. Martin.
No. She has never written anything other than the manuscript that she wrote for the Commission. And we have never pre-prepared anything.
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