Mr. Rankin.

When was that done?

Mr. Martin.

I believe that was December 6.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you recall anything else that was said or done at this conversation when Mr. Thorne came over and talked to Marina through the interpreter and you were present?

Mr. Martin.

No.

Mr. Rankin.

Was there a formal contract executed between Marina and Mr. Thorne at some time?

Mr. Martin.

Yes.

Mr. Rankin.

You think that was December 6 to your recollection.

Mr. Martin.

Either the 5th or the 6th.

Mr. Rankin.

Now, before that contract was executed did you discuss it with Mr. Thorne?

Mr. Martin.

Yes.

Mr. Rankin.

Was Marina present when you did?

Mr. Martin.

I don't believe so.

Mr. Rankin.

Where did this discussion occur?

Mr. Martin.

I believe it was at the Inn.

Mr. Rankin.

Your office?

Mr. Martin.

No, in the coffee shoppe.

Mr. Rankin.

Who else was present.

Mr. Martin.

No one.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you then go over the terms of the contract with him?

Mr. Martin.

No. I think I left that up to him.

Mr. Rankin.

Were you then the manager of Marina's affairs?

Mr. Martin.

No.

Mr. Rankin.

Who were you acting for in regard to that arrangement?

Mr. Martin.

Well, acting for Marina although I had no--I had no contract to that effect.

Mr. Rankin.

You were still acting under this suggestion by Mr. Gopadze that some counsel be gotten for her?

Mr. Martin.

Yes.

Mr. Rankin.

And you did go over the terms of this contract at that time, did you?

Mr. Martin.

Yes.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you make any suggestions for changes?

Mr. Martin.

That we delete it, on my contract, we deleted any gifts or contributions.

Mr. Rankin.

That is on the draft of the contract for you to act as manager?

Mr. Martin.

Yes.

Mr. Rankin.

And when did that idea of your acting as manager come up?

Mr. Martin.

Well, I believe it was the same day that John Thorne came out to talk to Marina and to Gopadze.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you know who brought it up?

Mr. Martin.

No.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you suggest that you act as manager?

Mr. Martin.

I don't believe I suggested it. We were discussing the need for a manager, and I don't know who brought it up as far as my being the one.

Mr. Rankin.

At that time was there any discussion about what compensation you would have?

Mr. Martin.

No.

Mr. Rankin.

When you were talking to Mr. Thorne in the coffee shoppe was there a discussion about how much compensation he would receive for acting as attorney?

Mr. Martin.

Yes.

Mr. Rankin.

What was said about that?

Mr. Martin.

Well, just that it would be 10 percent.

Mr. Rankin.

Had you ever discussed that before with him?

Mr. Martin.

Not that I recall.
(At this point, Senator Cooper entered the hearing room.)

Mr. Dulles.

Senator, we welcome you.
Senator COOPER. Thank you.