Mr. Mckenzie.

And what did he say?

Mr. Oswald.

I put it to him as stated in my diary, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Identify the page, please.

Mr. Oswald.

On page 12, "I do not recall everything he said. I did try to point out to him that the evidence was overwhelming that he did kill Police Officer Tippit and possibly the President. To this he replied do not form any opinion on the so- called evidence.'"

Mr. Jenner.

Is that all he said? He said nothing else?

Mr. Oswald.

To that----

Mr. Jenner.

In response to you?

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

At no time when you interviewed him over the telephone while you were in that--the sixth floor--did he affirmatively deny either that he had shot Officer Tippit or that he shot the President?

Mr. Oswald.

He did not admit to anything whatsoever.

Mr. Jenner.

Nor did he deny it affirmatively--other than the remark that you have recorded in your memorandum?

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct, sir.

Mr. Mckenzie.

In other words, Mr. Oswald, when you were talking there with your brother, in the city jail of Dallas, he did not deny that he had killed Officer Tippit, nor did he deny that he had assassinated President Kennedy?

Mr. Oswald.

He did not admit to anything, sir.

Mr. Mckenzie.

And he didn't deny anything?

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Have you, or haven't you told this Commission that you believed a denial?

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, Mr. McKenzie, I don't understand that question.

Mr. Mckenzie.

It says in this article that he told the Commission that he believed the denial.
Since there was no denial, there was nothing for you to believe.

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Up to this moment he has never testified as to that, to my recollection.

Mr. Mckenzie.

That is correct.
Again, based on the evidence that you have read or heard in newspaper articles, whether it be evidence or not, but based on everything that you have heard or read, you now believe that your brother, Lee Harvey Oswald, did kill Mr. Tippit and assassinated President Kennedy, is that correct?

Mr. Oswald.

Purely on the circumstantial evidence that has been brought to my attention or that I have read.

Mr. Mckenzie.

I believe that is all, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Jenner.

May I ask one question?
Mr. Oswald, until this afternoon, when you recalled orally here the circumstances and the event of your discussion with your brother on the sixth floor of the Dallas--is that Dallas County?

Mr. Mckenzie.

No; it is Dallas City Jail.

Mr. Jenner.

Dallas City Jail--had I had any conversation with you at all on that subject?

Mr. Oswald.

None that I recall, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Thank you.

Mr. Mckenzie.

That is all, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Dulles.

That will then conclude the testimony of Mr. Robert Oswald, with the understanding that the Commission might later wish to recall him if any facts are adduced that would make that desirable.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Mr. Dulles--is he now released from his oath to the Commission, subject to recall and being resworn?

Mr. Dulles.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

That is correct. That is my understanding. In any event, I so agree, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Thank you, sir.
I would like to state to the Commission one further thing, Mr. Dulles, if I may. We very much appreciate, and by "we" I mean myself as counsel, and Mr.