(Testimony of Robert Edward Oswald Lee Resumed)
Mr. Jenner.
And did you gentlemen have the radio in operation?
Mr. Oswald.
Yes, sir; we did.
Mr. Jenner.
And listening to it?
Mr. Oswald.
Yes, sir; we were.
Mr. Jenner.
Were you listening to anything in particular?
Mr. Oswald.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner.
What?
Mr. Oswald.
We were listening to a newscast of the events that had already taken place in Dallas, Tex., at approximately 12:30 that afternoon.
Mr. Jenner.
And you record the time in your notebook?
Mr. Oswald.
Yes, sir--as approximately 1 p.m., sir.
Mr. Jenner.
I think we had reached page 6 of your memorandum.
You record on pages 4 and 5--I think towards the bottom of page 4, and the upper portion of page 5--your meeting that day or early evening with Marina and, I believe your mother--but at least Marina. Is that correct?
In Dallas?
Mr. Oswald.
That is correct.
Mr. Jenner.
And just for the purpose of making sure of the record, I gather from your testimony yesterday that this was the first time that you had seen Marina since Thanksgiving Day of 1962?
Mr. Oswald.
That is correct.
Mr. Jenner.
And where did this visit take place--here did you meet her on this occasion?
Mr. Oswald.
At the Dallas police station.
Mr. Jenner.
Did she have either or both of her children with her?
Mr. Oswald.
She had both of her children with her.
Mr. Jenner.
That would include the infant Rachel?
Mr. Oswald.
Yes, sir; that is correct.
Mr. Jenner.
Were you advised at any time prior to this occasion that her second child had been born to her?
Mr. Oswald.
No, sir; I had not been.
Mr. Jenner.
And this was the first information you had on this subject?
Mr. Oswald.
That is correct.
Mr. Dulles.
You probably knew that a child was contemplated.
Mr. Jenner.
Well, he might not.
Mr. Oswald.
No, sir; I wasn't aware of that.
Mr. Jenner.
Had you even up to that moment been advised directly or indirectly that Marina had been pregnant, from which pregnancy the child Rachel had been born?
Mr. Oswald.
No, sir; I had not been advised.
Mr. Jenner.
Was there an interpreter present at the time you visited with Marina: as I recall your mother was present, also.
Mr. Oswald.
That is correct.
Mr. Jenner.
Was there an interpreter there at that time?
Mr. Oswald.
There was a Mrs. Paine there, who was acting as an interpreter.
Mr. Jenner.
You have now named everybody present--yourself, Marina, and her two children, your mother, yourself, and Mrs. Paine.
Mr. Oswald.
With the exception, sir, that there was a police officer, or my assumption that he was a police officer, in the room.
Mr. Jenner.
Was he in uniform or plain clothes?
Mr. Oswald.
Plain clothes.
Mr. Dulles.
Mr. Paine was not there at this time?
Mr. Oswald.
No, sir, he was not.
Mr. Dulles.
He came later that day, did he?
Mr. Oswald.
Just a very few minutes after this meeting.
Mr. Jenner.
Mrs. Paine then acted as interpreter between yourself and Marina and between her and others in the party?
Mr. Oswald.
That is correct.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you say anything in the presence of everybody to her with respect to the birth of her second child, which came as a complete surprise to you?
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