Mr. Oswald.

That is correct, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Did the somewhat abrupt change in the attitude of your brother Lee toward the United States come as a surprise to you?

Mr. Oswald.

You are referring to the period in 1959?

Mr. Jenner.

I am.

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir; it did.

Mr. Jenner.

That is the letters of May 5 and May 31 and those that followed. But that change, and his desire to return to the United States, did come as a surprise to you, is that correct, sir?

Mr. Mckenzie.

Are you asking about his return to the United States or be going to Russia?

Mr. Jenner.

No, sir, his return to the United States, his change of attitude.

Mr. Oswald.

It was quite a surprise to me that he wished to return to the United States from Russia.

Mr. Jenner.

Was the change in attitude toward the United States as expressed first in the letters of November 8 and November 26, 1959, and then the series of letters that commenced in the spring of 1961 a surprise to you?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; it was not a surprise to me.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you explain both of your answers.

Mr. Oswald.

There, sir, I felt like in the due course he would certainly change his mind and opinion of the U.S.S.R., and I felt very strongly that after a period of so many months or a year or two that he would change his mind and return to the United States.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, prior to your brother's leaving Russia to return to United States, that is actually a day or two before, if not the day before they left Minsk for Moscow, in May of 1962, your brother Lee outlined his projected route by return to the United States. He spoke in that letter of leaving from England and arriving in New Orleans.

Mr. Oswald.

I beg your pardon, sir?

Mr. Jenner.

There is a difference in the route actually taken. Did you ever discuss with Lee why that change in route occurred? Are you seeking that May letter?

Mr. Jenner.

It is probably the 22d of May and that is Exhibit 318.

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir; I have the letter before me. You are referring to the letter of May 22, 1962?

Mr. Jenner.

Well, it would appear from the notation handed to me. Is there any discussion in that letter about the route of his return, projected return, to the United States?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir; there is.

Mr. Jenner.

What does it say, please?

Mr. Oswald.

"Well, we have finally gotten the word from the U.S. Embassy and shall leave for Moscow tomorrow. We will be 10 to 14 days in Moscow and then leave for England where we shall board a ship for America. The transatlantic trip will take another two weeks or so."

Mr. Jenner.

Now, the fact is that they did go to Moscow and then to Holland, and boarded a ship at Holland, and as you say touched England and then went directly to the United States.
Did you ever discuss with your brother that change in route?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; I did not. And I did fail to read further on down where it does refer to, as he put it, "will actually arrive in America probably in New Orleans."

Mr. Jenner.

He actually arrived in New York City.

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

That subject matter was never discussed by you with him?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; it Was not.

Mr. Jenner.

Or by him in your presence?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; it was not.

Mr. Jenner.

Or by Marina?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

With you or in your presence?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; it was not.