Mr. Jenner.

Before you answer--it is not recorded in your diary, is it?

Mr. Mckenzie.

The diary would be the best evidence of that.

Mr. Jenner.

In order that I don't try to examine over 20 pages----

Mr. Dulles.

I have just read the diary, and I do not recall it.

Mr. Mckenzie.

I don't, either. I don't believe it is.

Mr. Jenner.

Proceed.

Mr. Oswald.

This occurred at the Inn of the Six Flags in Arlington, Tex.

Mr. Jenner.

Fix the time.

Mr. Oswald.

On Thursday morning, November 28, 1963, at which time I talked to Mrs. Marina N. Oswald.

Mr. Jenner.

In whose presence, if anyone?

Mr. Oswald.

If memory serves me correct, sir, in the presence of Mr. Jim Martin, and perhaps one Secret Service agent that I cannot recall vividly enough to identify by name. That Mr. Martin--if I may back up, sir. We did have a Secret Service agent there. I do recall he was Mr. Gopadze, who was acting as an interpreter. And I do believe that Mr. Gopadze acted as an interpreter at the time when we discussed with Marina the possibility of her moving to Mr. Jim Martin's home in Dallas, Tex., as a permanent guest or for as long as she wished to with her children, and I believe at this time she asked my opinion of this, whether or not I thought this was the thing to do, and my advice to her was that it was, and that she was going to abide by my decision that this was the thing to do at that time.

Mr. Jenner.

This discussion occurred in the presence of these people you have mentioned?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Included in that discussion, was the alternative of her residing with your mother discussed?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; it was not, because I did not look to that as an alternative.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you know whether Marina--had there been any discussion prior thereto, to your knowledge, of any possibility or suggestion by anyone that Marina undertake residence with your mother?

Mr. Oswald.

Not to my knowledge, sir, was there any discussion between me and Marina or myself and my mother that Marina was going to reside in her place.

Mr. Jenner.

As a possibility?

Mr. Oswald.

Not to my knowledge, sir. I might----

Mr. Jenner.

Whether the discussion was directly with you or not, was the subject of the possibility--it is always possible-- of Marina residing with your mother--was it raised during this period of time? Did you know of anybody ever suggesting it, or it being considered--apart from whether there was discussion with you directly?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir, to my knowledge I was not aware of any situation such as that.

Mr. Jenner.

I forgot now.
Did you say Marina was present during the course of this discussion?

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

And did she say anything on the subject through the interpreter?

Mr. Oswald.

If I may, sir, go to the preceding day of Thursday, November 28, 1963, to Wednesday, November 27, 1963, at which time I was advised by Secret Service agent Mike Howard of the offer of Mr. Jim Martin to take Marina and the children into the family, into his family, and raise them as he would his own members of the family. I did not discuss at first with Marina this offer. I did discuss with Mr. Jim Martin, prior to discussing with Marina N. Oswald, this possibility.

Mr. Jenner.

This possibility being what possibility?

Mr. Oswald.

Of Marina accepting this offer.

Mr. Jenner.

Of Mr. Martin?

Mr. Oswald.

Of Mr. Martin's, that is correct.
After my discussion with Mr. Martin on this question----

Mr. Jenner.

In that discussion, were any alternatives discussed?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir, there was not. It was a discussion only about Mr.