Mr. Oswald.

And Marina was there.
Yes, sir; I was having a conversation or she was having something of a conversation with me.

Mr. Jenner.

Before you give the conversation, was there ever any other occasion up to and including November 23, 1963 when you had a discussion with your brother or with Marina respecting the return of either of them to Russia.

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; I only recall this one occasion.

Mr. Jenner.

State what was said, please, and by whom.

Mr. Oswald.

This was said by Marina Oswald in June of 1962 in very broken English: "I never want to go to Russia again."

Mr. Jenner.

Return to Russia?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And that was said in the presence of your brother Lee, presence and your wife's presence?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir; I feel certain that all four of us were present.

Mr. Jenner.

Did your brother say anything on that occasion?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

As to that subject matter?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

This took place in your home? How long after they had returned from Russia did this conversation take place?

Mr. Mckenzie.

What was that question?

Mr. Oswald.

I would say 1 or 2 weeks.

Mr. Jenner.

One or two weeks after they had returned from Russia?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

That is when they were staying with you after their return?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

At any time prior to November 23, 1962, were you aware or any incident arise or conversation take place indicating any desire on your brother Lee's part to go to Cuba?

Mr. Oswald.

No. sir; it did not.

Mr. Jenner.

Or to Mexico?

Mr. Oswald.

No. sir: it did not.

Mr. Jenner.

Or any other country than the United States?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir: there was not.

Mr. Dulles.

Was there any particular reason why you did not have some contact with Lee during the period November, Thanksgiving 1962, and your departure for Arkansas in March of 1963?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; none that I was aware of. I did write him on two or three occasions asking him to advise me of his address in Dallas, Tex., so when I had an opportunity either on business or otherwise passing through where I could possibly stop and see him, if not Marina and the child.
His response to this was as it is stated in the letter of March 17, 1963, that generally he was moving and it was not settled and he would always retain the pest office box in Dallas, Tex., where I might reach him through the mail and that I would not be able to see him. or his family when I came through town.

Mr. Dulles.

Did that surprise you?

Mr. Oswald.

It did not at first, sir, because I realized he was not settled as to a stable job and to an apartment. However, it did concern me later, and I refer to my letter that I wrote him in March of 1963 which he replied to on March 17 or March 16, 1963.

Mr. Jenner.

Which is Commission Exhibit 322.

Mr. Oswald.

That I would like to have an address other than a post office box, and when again he did not furnish me this information, I did not respond to his letter of March 17, 1963. The last time I wrote him was in September 1963 when I returned to Texas and our moving into Denton, Tex., advising him of my new address, and still at that time requesting again an address where they were staying at in Dallas so that I might contact him, since again we were close together, approximately 30 miles away.

Mr. Jenner.

And he did not respond to that?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; he never responded to that letter that I wrote him in September other than on the day that I visited him at Dallas County Jail or