Mr. Jenner.

on September 11, 1959, and his statement to you that he had an early discharge because your mother had written a letter to the Red Cross.

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

And then you saw her in April, and that was the last time you saw her prior to seeing your brother on his discharge from the Marines?

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Now----

Mr. Dulles.

Could I ask one question there.
Do you know whether your brother stimulated this letter from your mother with regard to early discharge, or do you think she did this on her own, or don't you know?

Mr. Oswald.

It is my understanding, sir, that she had originated the request to the Red Cross.

Mr. Jenner.

And that understanding is based on what?

Mr. Oswald.

Just a general feeling that I had at that time.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it induced also by discovering from your brother that your mother had written a letter to the Red Cross?

Mr. Oswald.

I am sure it was, sir. And I might add I pointed out to Lee why did you accept this early discharge, since he only had a few months more, I believe it was, to go. Because it had been my experience in the service that when I ran across somebody who, for one reason or another, was going to get out a little bit early, I understood that they perhaps were subject to recall for that period at a later date, or something along that line. And I thought it was unwise.

Mr. Jenner.

Is this what you said to him?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir. I pointed out--I felt like since it was to be under the regular enlistment period very shortly thereafter, I believe September 11, 1959, that it would have been the wise thing to stay in.

Mr. Jenner.

What did he say to that?

Mr. Oswald.

I do not recall, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

You were living in Fort Worth, married, and still you were having substantially little contact with your mother, is that correct?

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you explain to the Commission the reasons for that, the conditions which brought that about?

Mr. Oswald.

After my marriage to Vada M. Oswald, my mother on a number of occasions--I say a number-perhaps three or four occasions--made it quite difficult for my wife and myself when we were in her presence at her apartment there in Fort Worth.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, please, Mr. Oswald--when you say your mother made it quite difficult, give us some examples. What do you mean by "made it quite difficult"?

Mr. Oswald.

Generally, sir, it was the continuation that, even though I was married and apparently able to take care of myself and start my own family, she certainly wanted to--my mother certainly wanted to--still control my thinking, my actions, and my wife's actions.

Mr. Jenner.

Can you give us one specific example?

Mr. Oswald.

Sir, I cannot recall any specific examples.

Mr. Jenner.

Indicate the nature of those incidents.

Mr. Dulles.

Had she objected to your marriage?

Mr. Oswald.

I don't believe she did, sir. At least I do not recall any time that she ever stated that, any objections to my marriage.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you have the feeling that she objected?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir, to some extent I did.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you have a conversation with her about your becoming married before you became married?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir, I did.

Mr. Jenner.

And did she what views did she express in that connection?

Mr. Oswald.

I believe, sir, that would be generally that I was leaving her alone, that both Lee and John at this time were in the service, and she would be alone, and that she would like for me to live with her, that I would stay with her.

Mr. Jenner.

When was your marriage again, please?