(Testimony of Mrs. Marguerite Oswald Resumed)
Mrs. Oswald.
of this conspiracy that they were going to let her go to a home, and they didn't tell me--and Mr. Peter Gregory.
Mr. Rankin.
And did they move your daughter-in-law out into the living rooms?
Mrs. Oswald.
Yes, sir, she slept on the sofa. And they moved June's baby bed from the bedroom into the living room, by my daughter-in-law. And I sat in a chair. I can do that. I am a nurse, and I can do without sleep. And I had all the papers. I told you that the night before they took me home to get my papers. And that is why I knew I had the insurance money. So I started to work on the papers. And I sat up all night long.
Mr. Rankin.
What did Marina say about that arrangement?
Mrs. Oswald.
There was nothing said between Marina and I. The last time I had seen Marina was when she shrugged me off, and then this came out why she shrugged me off. I have had no contact with Marina since.
Mr. Rankin.
Now, why do you think there is a conspiracy about this? Can you explain that to us?
Mrs. Oswald.
About this particular instance?
Mr. Rankin.
Yes.
Mrs. Oswald.
Well, I don't say that is a particular instance. But it is certainly a very unusual way to do a thing, a very unusual way--not to consult me. Marina and I were friends. She was going to come and live with me. I was going to share my money with her. And then they went ahead and planned all this without my knowledge.
Maybe you know the answer to it, I don't know. But there was no hard feelings--even now I love Marina and I would take and help her any way I can.
So I don't understand these things. But I am telling you the way things happen, the way I was excluded. And your Secret Service agents had part of this.
Mr. Rankin.
And you do not think Robert and the Secret Service agents could be acting in good faith to try to just help Marina and her children along?
Mrs. Oswald.
Well, I cannot see from my point of view that it would be good that a foreign girl lives in a stranger's home, a perfect stranger who has come to the police department and offered her a home. We are talking about a perfect stranger. If she is a perfect stranger--maybe she wasn't. I have no way of knowing. But I am going to assume what I read. It would be much better for this girl to go live in this stranger's home than to be with her family? This girl and my grandchildren needed a family, which I was that family. I cannot see that.
Mr. Rankin.
What I am asking you is: Do you think it is possible that Robert was just mistaken when he and the Secret Service man, if they are involved, thought this might be a good plan. Isn't it possible they were trying to do the right thing?
Mrs. Oswald.
No, sir, I think it was deliberate. I am sure. I don't think. I am positive it was deliberate. And I will tell you why as we go along.
Mr. Rankin.
Now, you said you thought it was deliberate.
Mrs. Oswald.
I am trying to get everything in, so you can get a clear picture.
Mr. Rankin.
Well, this plan to have your daughter-in-law go and live with another lady--this Mrs. Pultz--you said you did not think it could be innocent or in good faith?
Mrs. Oswald.
Yes--because then this same Secret Service man, that I don't know the name now, I may be wrong about this-just a moment. No--this is not the same man.
One of the other Secret Service men had gone to talk to Robert's boss, because Robert was worried about his job. So this happened in the afternoon. I had no contact with Marina. And he came in and in front of me he parted Robert on the shoulder and said, "Now, Robert, I have talked to your boss and you are all right. I assured him you are not involved in any way."
So, gentlemen, Marina is taken care of; Robert is taken care of--I am not feeling sorry for myself, believe me, because I can take care of myself. But here is a mother who has come to the rescue, lost her job, offered her good love
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