Mrs. Oswald.

And so I am not being well liked, because all the arrangements was made, that we were going to go to this little farm house. But I would not go.
I could not survive if I was 40 or 50 miles away and my son was picked up as a murderer. I had to be right there in Dallas.

Mr. Rankin.

Now, this was after----

Mrs. Oswald.

When they left the Executive Inn, when we got in the car.

Mr. Rankin.

And this was after your son was killed?

Mrs. Oswald.

Well, yes, but they didn't know this.

Mr. Rankin.

And Robert didn't know that?

Mrs. Oswald.

They kept it from us--I guess being women. Marina and I did not even know he was shot. I will go on to that story and tell you. No, sir, we did not know.

Mr. Rankin.

The Secret Service people didn't tell you either?

Mrs. Oswald.

No, sir; nothing was said. They wanted us for security reasons----

Mr. Dulles.

If the time is 11:30----

Mr. Rankin.

They left at 12 or 12:30, I thought.

Mr. Dulles.

You said 11:30 to 12.

Mrs. Oswald.

Approximately that time.

Mr. Dulles.

It might not have taken place.

Mrs. Oswald.

I know Lee was shot. But at this time I am telling you I don't know this.
This has to go in sequence, sir. Lee was shot, or else we wouldn't have had all these Secret Service men around. But I know then after that Lee was shot. Not now--I do not know this.
Are there any questions? I am willing to answer anything you want to ask.
If you will bear with me, I can go into----

Mr. Rankin.

Did you later learn at what time of that Sunday he was shot?

Mrs. Oswald.

No, sir; I did not.

Mr. Rankin.

You never did?

Mrs. Oswald.

Not until about 3 days later. That is what I was telling you about Six Flags. I am trying to explain to you why I don't know these things is because we did not sit down and watch television and read papers. Marina and I--I had two sick babies there. There was a doctor coming in twice a day. I was a very busy woman. And the men were not telling us anything. They were not interested in us.

Mr. Rankin.

Now, after you told them that you wanted to stay in a hotel, you could be protected there, what happened?

Mrs. Oswald.

Then, of course, nothing was said that they were going to give me my way. But we needed clothes--Marina and the baby needed clothes. So then they decided that they should go to Irving, through my suggestion and so on, and pick up clothes for Marina and the baby, because we were short on diapers. So they are going to Irving.
We got to Irving. There is police cars all around. So that is why I feel sure my son was shot.

Mr. Rankin.

How far away is that from this Executive Inn?

Mrs. Oswald.

I would think--now, this is just hearsay. But I would think it is about 12 to 15 or 18 miles.
When we reached there, they brought us to the chief of police's home. And there were cars all around.
As soon as the car stopped, the Secret Service agent said, "Lee has been shot."
And I said, "How badly?"
He said, "In the shoulder."
They brought Marina into the house.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you ask him how he knew that?

Mrs. Oswald.

It came over--I thought he had the radio in the car, Secret Serviceman, and he had talked to someone. This was all set up, sir, and I can prove to you. They didn't want us to know. They are now telling us this, Marina and I.
He talked, and then he turned around and said, "Lee has been shot."
I said, "How badly?"
He said, "In the shoulder."