She said Marina didn't know how to get in touch with me.
She said, "Well, because of the way they lived, he lived in Dallas, and came home to my home on weekends. I didn't feel like I wanted to interfere."
And she acted as--excuse me, gentlemen. but this is very, very emotional.

The Chairman.

That is all right.

Mrs. Oswald.

She acted as interpreter for Marina. We are in the courthouse now, in the jailhouse.
So her testimony, gentlemen, the testimony that the Dallas police have, is the testimony of Mrs. Paine, that Marina assumed Lee had given her.
Could we state now maybe it is not the correct testimony that Marina gave--just one interpreter, and Marina's friend, is the testimony that the Dallas police has.
I have no way of knowing, and you have no way of knowing, gentlemen, whether it is the correct testimony.
So Mrs. Paine told me that she acted as interpreter.
And I said, "1 don't know what I am going to do. I want to stay in Dallas and be near Lee, so that I can help with this situation as much as possible."
She said, "Mrs. Oswald, you are welcome in my home if you care to sleep on the sofa."
I said, "Thank you very much, Mrs. Paine, I will accept your offer. I will sleep on the floor in order to be near Dallas."
So we left. We went to Mrs. Paine's home.
I am going to say again I did not see my son.
So--I had my nurse's uniform on for 3 days.

Mr. Rankin.

What day was this at Mrs. Paine's?

Mrs. Oswald.

This was the night of Friday, November 22d. We arrived there approximately 6 o'clock. Upon entering the home, about 5 minutes after 1 was in the home, there was a knock on the door.
Now, this is a little vague. On the way leaving the courthouse we may have been in the company of the two Life representatives. They may have taken us to Mrs. Paine's home. I did not ask who was taking us to Mrs. Paine's home, because I was holding my grandbaby and talking to Marina, and sitting in the back of the car. And it didn't interest me at the time how I was getting to Mrs. Paine's home.
Why I am bringing this up was because after I was in her home, about 5 minutes, there was a knock on the door, and these two Life representatives entered the home.
The name of the men, one is Allan Grant, and the other is Tommy Thompson.
And I was not introduced.

Mr. Rankin.

Had you ever seen them before?

Mrs. Oswald.

No, I had never seen them before. As I say, they could have been the men driving the ear. But I want you to understand at the time I didn't notice that, because I was holding my new grandbaby, and comforting my daughter-in-law, and talking to Mrs. Paine in the back seat of the car.
So Mrs. Paine sat on the floor. And she said to the photographer--he had a camera in front of him--"Now, I hope you have good color film, because I want good pictures."

Mr. Rankin.

What time of the day was this?

Mrs. Oswald.

This was approximately 6:30. We had just arrived in Mrs. Paine's home I would say 6 and 7 o'clock, approximately, between that time. We are home 5 minutes when they knocked on the door.
Mrs. Paine immediately says, "Gentlemen, I hope you have colored film so we will have some good pictures."
I didn't know who they were.
But then I knew they were newsmen, because of her statement and the camera.
So Tommy Thompson started to interview Mrs. Paine. He said, "Mrs. Paine, tell me, are Marina and Lee separated, since Lee lives in Dallas?"
She said, "No, they are a happy family. Lee lives in Dallas because of necessity. He works in Dallas, and this is Irving, and he has no transportation, and he comes every weekend to see his family."
"Well," he said, "What type family man is he?"

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